it is a shame that 1 dollar of my tax dollars goes to this. if you are in that bureaucracy, a whole lot more than 1 dollar, you're getting a lot of concentrated benefits. you are going to fight tooth and nail to keep those programs. that is why a clean slate needs to be what we need. >> we are at transport in las vegas. we are talking with author tom woods about his new book, "rollback: repaling big government before the coming fiscal collapse." >> but that is another one of these topics, again, we are taught to not really think about, not to subject them to little scrutiny. that you have a question about the federal reserve, people who clearly are saying that it's okay. what does it do? what is it about? what i'm suggesting is that the fed is actually not the institution that when we spontaneously have these business cycles that have no explanation, but that comes to the restroom solves the problem. they typically intensifies the problem and what we need do is roll back the fed as well. the conventional wisdom surrounding the fed is dead wron